<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24244078.post7516301870732069044..comments</id><updated>2008-07-21T15:53:52.125+01:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on Bits or pieces?: RedMonk talks clouds.</title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://blog.gardeviance.org/feeds/7516301870732069044/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/24244078/7516301870732069044/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://blog.gardeviance.org/2008/07/redmonk-talks-clouds.html'/><author><name>swardley</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04702421918430488600</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>2</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24244078.post-6922360537501580965</id><published>2008-07-21T15:53:00.000+01:00</published><updated>2008-07-21T15:53:00.000+01:00</updated><title type='text'>Hi Acroll,"but still lock you in through scale or ...</title><content type='html'>Hi Acroll,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;I&gt;"but still lock you in through scale or APIs"&lt;/I&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Whilst there is an issue regarding lock-in through network effects, what you describe as &lt;I&gt;"open service"&lt;/I&gt; would seem to be in practice the same as what I describe as &lt;I&gt;"open sourced standards"&lt;/I&gt; - i.e. based upon an open sourced reference model which is operational. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The issue is that most services today may well be based upon open source platform but the service itself is not based upon an &lt;A HREF="http://blog.gardeviance.org/2008/05/portability-accessibility-openness-and.html" REL="nofollow"&gt;open sourced standard&lt;/A&gt; .i.e. the service itself isn't open.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I would completely agree with you that what we need are more open and utility like services in IT, that's &lt;A HREF="http://blog.gardeviance.org/2006/07/driving-force-for-change.html" REL="nofollow"&gt;commoditisation&lt;/A&gt; for you.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/24244078/7516301870732069044/comments/default/6922360537501580965'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/24244078/7516301870732069044/comments/default/6922360537501580965'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://blog.gardeviance.org/2008/07/redmonk-talks-clouds.html?showComment=1216651980000#c6922360537501580965' title=''/><author><name>swardley</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04702421918430488600</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='18262070887040508693'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://blog.gardeviance.org/2008/07/redmonk-talks-clouds.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24244078.post-7516301870732069044' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/24244078/posts/default/7516301870732069044' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24244078.post-4091658665916107669</id><published>2008-07-21T12:43:00.000+01:00</published><updated>2008-07-21T12:43:00.000+01:00</updated><title type='text'>I'm not sure open source is the answer. Most cloud...</title><content type='html'>I'm not sure open source is the answer. Most cloud vendors operate on open source platforms, but still lock you in through scale or APIs somehow.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I think what we need is Open Services. I'm not sure what this means yet, but I suspect it's something like this:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Electrical utilities are "open service" because you can plug into the grid and generate power. So anyone can become a producer. Of course, electricity is a lot easier to standardize than a computing platform, so in the cloud we're likely talking about a set of fundamental functions that are portable and plug-compatible, and priced in an "open" way.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Then, just as OpenOffice keeps Microsoft Office's prices in check, so an open cloud alternative provides push-back against cloud lock-in.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/24244078/7516301870732069044/comments/default/4091658665916107669'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/24244078/7516301870732069044/comments/default/4091658665916107669'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://blog.gardeviance.org/2008/07/redmonk-talks-clouds.html?showComment=1216640580000#c4091658665916107669' title=''/><author><name>acroll</name><uri>http://acroll.myopenid.com/</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://blog.gardeviance.org/2008/07/redmonk-talks-clouds.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24244078.post-7516301870732069044' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/24244078/posts/default/7516301870732069044' type='text/html'/></entry></feed>