<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24244078.post3459987150595109956..comments</id><updated>2008-04-09T23:47:42.491+01:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on Bits or pieces?: Amazon vs Google</title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://blog.gardeviance.org/feeds/3459987150595109956/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/24244078/3459987150595109956/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://blog.gardeviance.org/2008/04/amazon-vs-google.html'/><author><name>swardley</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04702421918430488600</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>4</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24244078.post-4198103500897295067</id><published>2008-04-09T23:47:00.000+01:00</published><updated>2008-04-09T23:47:00.000+01:00</updated><title type='text'>Hi Artur,First, good to hear you're coming over to...</title><content type='html'>Hi Artur,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;First, good to hear you're coming over to London for Web 2.0 Strategies.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;As for EC2 at the hardware level (HaaS) and GAE at the framework level (FaaS), maybe I'm explaining myself badly, but this is not the point of the discussion. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The important point is that Google has provided a blueprint in the open SDK for their framework. OK, it is not their live environment, but it should provide a means to ensure compatibility between one provider and another. Map an alternative service to the SDK and you have the starting point for portability in this utility computing world.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Once competitive utility computing markets get started at any level - HaaS / FaaS or SaaS (as I used to call them) - they will spread and become the standards.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The essential point is that an open sourced environment (in this case the open SDK) can become the open standard for which portability is built around.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;It doesn't matter what level of the stack, if it works it will spread.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I personally haven't seen any signs to make me believe that Amazon is ready to embrace that open world.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/24244078/3459987150595109956/comments/default/4198103500897295067'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/24244078/3459987150595109956/comments/default/4198103500897295067'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://blog.gardeviance.org/2008/04/amazon-vs-google.html?showComment=1207781220000#c4198103500897295067' title=''/><author><name>swardley</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04702421918430488600</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='18262070887040508693'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://blog.gardeviance.org/2008/04/amazon-vs-google.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24244078.post-3459987150595109956' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/24244078/posts/default/3459987150595109956' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24244078.post-896101140437776016</id><published>2008-04-09T23:17:00.000+01:00</published><updated>2008-04-09T23:17:00.000+01:00</updated><title type='text'>Just a note,You can't compare EC2 and Googles offe...</title><content type='html'>Just a note,You can't compare EC2 and Googles offering, one is the raw abstraction of hardware and storage, the other is a app environment. (Except SimpleDB)&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;You could build something like what Google has on top of EC2 :).&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I think there are room for both, but for different markets.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/24244078/3459987150595109956/comments/default/896101140437776016'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/24244078/3459987150595109956/comments/default/896101140437776016'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://blog.gardeviance.org/2008/04/amazon-vs-google.html?showComment=1207779420000#c896101140437776016' title=''/><author><name>crucially</name><uri>http://crucially.livejournal.com/</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://blog.gardeviance.org/2008/04/amazon-vs-google.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24244078.post-3459987150595109956' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/24244078/posts/default/3459987150595109956' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24244078.post-5920951639859081673</id><published>2008-04-09T19:21:00.000+01:00</published><updated>2008-04-09T19:21:00.000+01:00</updated><title type='text'>Hi James, I think we're agreeing through disagreei...</title><content type='html'>Hi James, &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I think we're agreeing through disagreeing. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I don't believe this is ready now for the enterprise prime time, it's a first step ... in a journey.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;However, the potential, which maybe fifty steps down the line is to completely change the game of IT.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/24244078/3459987150595109956/comments/default/5920951639859081673'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/24244078/3459987150595109956/comments/default/5920951639859081673'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://blog.gardeviance.org/2008/04/amazon-vs-google.html?showComment=1207765260000#c5920951639859081673' title=''/><author><name>swardley</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04702421918430488600</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='18262070887040508693'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://blog.gardeviance.org/2008/04/amazon-vs-google.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24244078.post-3459987150595109956' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/24244078/posts/default/3459987150595109956' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24244078.post-737888889442032015</id><published>2008-04-09T18:33:00.000+01:00</published><updated>2008-04-09T18:33:00.000+01:00</updated><title type='text'>Fine, as far as it goes.  However, I added a post ...</title><content type='html'>Fine, as far as it goes.  However, &lt;A HREF="http://blog.jamesurquhart.com/2008/04/what-google-app-engine-is-not.html" REL="nofollow"&gt;I added a post to my blog&lt;/A&gt; to describe why even an open market of Google-compatible delivery options won't make this that much more important to enterprise IT.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;(Actually, I love this observation for web apps...and if Google decides to move forward with "offline processing support", the game may change down the road--way down the road.)</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/24244078/3459987150595109956/comments/default/737888889442032015'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/24244078/3459987150595109956/comments/default/737888889442032015'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://blog.gardeviance.org/2008/04/amazon-vs-google.html?showComment=1207762380000#c737888889442032015' title=''/><author><name>James Urquhart</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07869296024524739031</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://blog.gardeviance.org/2008/04/amazon-vs-google.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24244078.post-3459987150595109956' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/24244078/posts/default/3459987150595109956' type='text/html'/></entry></feed>